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Fox News Anti-Islam T-Shirt Story Unfairly Attacks ACLU?
Posted on 21. Dec, 2009 by vladowsky in Fox
MANYmore examples of Fox News Bias at www.youtube.com And, more info on the ACLU defending Christians at aclufightsforchristians.com When Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly covered a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union to protect the right to wear a T-Shirt saying “Islam is of the Devil,” the coverage of the story on “The O’Reilly Factor” was so bad, even though it included analysis from two lawyers, Lis Wiehl and Kimberly Guilfoyle, in the so-called “No Spin Zone,” it was really just a …


25 Comments
CaptainVideo890
17. Dec, 2009
“Proselytizing is not okay.” You’ve got to be kidding me. You know what group does that more often than any other?
riseofatheism
18. Dec, 2009
Christians. And no I’m not kidding you. Proselytizing is not okay on government property.
adzug
18. Dec, 2009
christians
CaptainVideo890
18. Dec, 2009
That wasn’t directed at you. I have no reason to trust your opinion anyway, you just hate religion.
CaptainVideo890
18. Dec, 2009
Why would that be? The Constitution prohibits the government from denying anyone the right to free speech.
adzug
18. Dec, 2009
thats not true but watever
riseofatheism
18. Dec, 2009
On government property, proselytizing is illegal. Freedom from religion as well. Remember that.
CaptainVideo890
18. Dec, 2009
I get it, the government gives you the freedom of speech, just not the freedom to change anyone’s mind.
riseofatheism
18. Dec, 2009
You absolutely have the right to proselytize. Just not on government property. I encourage proselytizing. But doing so on government property, r by government paid employees, is and should remain illegal. This protects everyone. So you don’t have to go to school and be preached to by a paganist, a satanist, a Christian, a Muslim, an atheist or what have you. This is for everyones protection, so that there is no conflict, or fighting. Religion causes violence.
riseofatheism
18. Dec, 2009
Being protected from religion means that you maintain your right not to be offended or bothered unnecessarily by people who don’t believe what you do. This is the problem with third world countries. Religion runs the government, and religion silences everyone who doesn’t believe as they do.
CaptainVideo890
18. Dec, 2009
You do know that the road outside your house is public property, right? If the freedom of speech were banned there, which you for some strange reason so desperately desire, your little friends, the NYC Atheists, wouldn’t be able to beg for converts on the city streets.
CaptainVideo890
18. Dec, 2009
You most definitely have a right to not be offended by a religion. Just don’t be offended by it. But don’t go crying to the government.
CaptainVideo890
18. Dec, 2009
Well you aren’t exactly it’s biggest fan.
Verrimgard
19. Dec, 2009
Answer to your first question: Because O’Rielly basically thinks that he IS america, and the rest of us are just sort of here messing up his stuff.
Or close enough anyway.
And for your second question: No. It makes no sense to allow positive statements, but to refuse negative statements. I mean, what the hell? You can express yourself, but only in a positive manner? No. Just, no dude, not cool. Even if that doesn’t snowball, it’s not right.
drone81
19. Dec, 2009
watching religious people slapfight about which religion is better than the other is like watching two three year-olds smack each other with their dicks. it’s incredibly embarassing to behold, but it’s just so ridiculous you can’t really turn away
adzug
19. Dec, 2009
ive studied comparitive relig a long time. im fascinated with the subject. but relig is used by ppl to promote their agendas and bamboozle the poor. but its the story of ppl trying to make sense outta the world too. its a powerful force that needs to be kept in check becuz of power abuses.
CaptainVideo890
19. Dec, 2009
It is clear to me that you have thought through this issue thoroughly, and I thank you for that. However, most religions are just ways for a community to crystallize it’s ideas about good and evil, and when someone tries to use it to increase their own power, the problem is with them, not the religion.
adzug
19. Dec, 2009
thats always the rub aint it? but if the vast majority start going with the philosophy of the leader then that is the relig. now this is the extreme case but nazi germany is a case exp. at times and in some cases relig is the prob.
CaptainVideo890
19. Dec, 2009
It don’t the the Nazis were motivated by religion, though Hitler sort of used his as a rally point early on.
adzug
19. Dec, 2009
no i know it was just exp to illustrate power of 1 person extended to the masses
tishalastre
20. Dec, 2009
NO, I am not European, I am Latin American, and I believe that every single person decerves their place on the world, while they don’t harm others, NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION THEY ARE. So in my world the racists like you, have their spot as well.
Islam is no threat to anyone, REAL islam, It’s completelly ovious that you didn’t care to make a little research, and realize that islam is not what the EXTREMIST AND TERRORIST say in their speches, the islam is a religion for peace.
tishalastre
20. Dec, 2009
You are so full of hatred towards the peole that is not your kind. Most of religions, even the cristian church, “promote” Homophobia, & misogyny, and that is why people are turning off religions. But the real deal is how you live your life and how you live with religion.
Democracy is not nesesarily the best goverment system, It depends on how culturized the people is, if the people is stupid, then democracy is the key to pandemonioum, check venezuela as an example.
Forthelulz01
20. Dec, 2009
I hate bill O’Reily. He’s either purposely lying to the world about stuff like this, or completely ignorant to what organizations like the ACLU actually are.
CireAknow
20. Dec, 2009
Bill O’Reilly’s bitterness towards the good folks at the ACLU stems from their refusal to take his case in regards to sexual explicit phone calls to your producer being free speech.
sidewayznut2009
20. Dec, 2009
Sorry but ACLU was wrong in this case. Positive messages about religion don’t OFFEND ANYONE negative messages do and it doesn’t matter what religion it is. I totally agree with the schools in this case they did the right thing.
I know the point is that they are only smearing the ACLU but they were defending a shitty cause.
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